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South Woodhammer 11:05 Mon May 1
Rob Newman head of recruitment

When Moyes goes at the end of the season surely this fella has to follow him out the door. I was reading the interview from September he gave on the club website patting himself on the back for the next level signings that he and Moyes had just made…
Aguerd - injured half the season, decent player but very unconvincing.
Cornet - hardly played. Sick note.
Emerson- hardly played.
Downes - ditto
Areola - ditto
Kehrer - absolute liability
Scamacca - Sick note , gone in the summer.
Paqueta - starting to finally look the part of a £50m signing but his game doesn’t suit Moyesball.
£180m spent and it’d be generous to claim that even one of the 7 he’s scouted and helped sign for Moyes has been a success. Rewind half a dozen games and Paqueta looked like a complete waste of the fee paid. His opposite numbers at Brighton and Brentford must be looking at West Ham and thinking ‘How do I get that job there ? ‘ as you can bet your life that Sullivan paid Newman a small fortune to come over from Man City . Apart from Everton who have had a mare with their signings our recruitment has been the worst in the Premier League for quite a few seasons now. Newman was supposed to have been changing the story but it seems like this club has a cycle that can’t be broken… but surely they can’t let him and Moyes anywhere near the Rice money. That’s if we stay up of course….

southbankbornnbred 11:26 Mon May 1
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Agreed.

It’s almost as though Man City’s vast wealth somehow influenced their ability to land big talent.

I always thought Newman was a poor fit. West Ham are not trying to replicate what the likes of Man City do. They can sign established world-class talent on massive fees.

We’re generally in the business of trying to spot less expensive players on the way up. We should be trying to replicate what Brighton, Brentford and others do - but at a slightly higher (financial) level. That wasn’t Newman at Man City.

claret59 11:27 Mon May 1
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i have a horrible feeling that the rice money was spent last year, in advance.

Side of Ham 11:31 Mon May 1
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Having seen Newcastle & Villa have a huge turnaround to their rabbles…. I’d rather wait and let a new manager decide…..

goose 11:35 Mon May 1
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We should never be buying £40m or £50m players, it’s not sustainable and is a sign of poor scouting.

We’ve pissed £180m up the wall basically.
We’re so badly run and It comes from the top down.

Side of Ham 11:44 Mon May 1
Re: Rob Newman head of recruitment

Made our own rod on that score goose….with the move….even the selling clubs won’t want to do budget deals….15th richest in the world blah, blah, blah….

british is best 11:44 Mon May 1
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It absolutely astounds me that anyone can believe we've spent the rice money in advance . The dwarf would never take a gamble like that . Anyway a quick look at the clubs accounts which are easily found can see that kretinsky invested a huge amount last summer that and the money earned during the Europa League run is why we spent so much .

swindon hammer 11:51 Mon May 1
Re: Rob Newman head of recruitment

TBF it was reported that Newman identified Julian Alvarez last year and Moyes turned him down.

There might have been other similar situations as well so much like some are saying we should judge some of our players under a different manager then maybe we should do the same with Newman as well?

Takashi Miike 12:00 Mon May 1
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of course, it's rob newman's fault and nothing to do with the absolute fucking clown in charge. it was also newman's fault, even though he hadn't arrived yet at the club, when the same jock idiot cost the club tens of millions on other players he destroyed

El Scorchio 12:35 Mon May 1
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Jury out on him for me with tweedledum and tweedledee having the say on who comes and who does not. All his suggestions might be being turned down. Be interesting to know which signings he’s responsible for and which he’s not, and what he identified that we haven’t followed up on before judging.

Let’s face it, Man City don’t buy many stinkers.

Stevethehammer 12:41 Mon May 1
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Newman has given Moyes a better team, every position he wanted/needed filled he got a player in that was better than what we originally had. How is it Newman's fault that Moyes has decided this season he will be completely anti attacking, soak up pressure and continue to play out of form players in favour of giving HIS signings any chance to get a run of form. The way he has managed some of those players make you wonder if Newman will stick around. Whats the point in dithering around all fucking summer flirting with Lingard and then going to the list Newman compiled and still not playing those players. 200 million down the swanny so that Moyes can play anti football and bore the fucking life out of 45k season ticket holders and many thousand more supporters across the land. A few flash in the pan results mean fuck all. We shouldn't be in this position but it's his tactics, his man management and his desire to play in a certain way overlooking the footballing talent we have in the side.

Crassus 12:53 Mon May 1
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How on Earth Newman carries any blame is beyond me?

There is little from the club stating who does what and the direction of his brief, so working upon that we do know, as in publicly released and as I think of them

Moyes has the final say on signings
Newman was originally directed along the Red Bull policy
Warburton has a family connection to Downes
Newman has strong connections in S America
Newman has strong connections in Ireland
We have bought/been linked to youngsters from both
Moyes blocked Alvarez
Moyes is a long standing admirer of Ings
Moyes waited excessively for Lingard

On top of which, what has the selected side got to do with Newman when Moyes picks the same core week in week out?

I see no attributable liability to Newman

Nagel 1:27 Mon May 1
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Crassus 12:53 Mon May 1

CanningTownWA 1:58 Mon May 1
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Side of Ham
I totally agree, its to easy writing off all the players when you see what a half decent manager can do to turn around teams and make players better not worse like Moyse

BillyJenningsBoots 2:41 Mon May 1
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Moyes talked about changing to a more possession based football this season (next level) and from what Newman/Sullivan supplied he got players who were much better in possession, both Kehrer and Aguerd are great on the ball, Emerson too is more attacking, Areola's distribution is better than Flappys. Scamacca is a goal scorer and Cornet is a proper left winger. Those attributes are improvements to a technically average team...

The problem is Moyes just inserted the new players into his usual formation in the hope it created a passing team that everyone wanted... those defensive players either got Injured or kept dropping clangers and he reverted to the tried and trusted. Scamacca was never going to work in a one up top..

Whose fault this is, is up for debate.. if Newman had realised Kehrer and Aguerd were due a mistake in every game would he have recommended them should he have known - I'd say yes before selection he should have done a better job. Scamaccas a weird one, not a line striker so why pick him unless Moyes was going to change to 2 up front.. so a miscommunication or bad selection?

Either way this experiment has not worked - now either change the player, change the system or change the manager..

Side of Ham 2:50 Mon May 1
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still don't think (because of the way Sullivan does his deals) we ever get our first or even second choices in the transfer market......only an opinion though not saying that is fact......

Stevethehammer 4:29 Mon May 1
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Moyes sanctioned the board spending near on 60 million for 2 strikers and plays just 1 converted winger upfront in spite of having a Premier league proven goalscorer sitting there on the bench collecting dust because he isn't being used correctly and. goalscorer with a good record in Serie A who has never played as a lone striker and scored his goals with a partner beside him. Blame Newman, blame Sullivan etc etc but Moyes wanted a striker, got 2 and doesn't play to their strengths in favour of a 1 up top formation. Clueless

Manuel 4:37 Mon May 1
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Steve - All this has been discussed so much now it's bordering on insanity as we can't change anything and Moyes doesn't read what we say. What I will say though is if we did get a new manager and say play Scamacca and Ings as a pair I think you will be disappointed if you suddenly think the goals will start flying in.

JayeMPee 6:45 Mon May 1
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Keep seeing sullivan mentioned as an ongoing problem on several threads but isn't he supposed to be moving on, or out? When are we rid of this monster and his football games?

Nagel 7:03 Mon May 1
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"goalscorer with a good record in Serie A who has never played as a lone striker and scored his goals with a partner beside him"

This isn't really true though. He scored all 16 of his goals last season as the lone striker, usually in a 4231 or 433 formation. He doesn't need a partner beside him, as much as he needs attacking midfielders with pace making runs that he can lay off to. If you play with inverted wingers hugging the touchline until they receive the ball then he's isolated and ineffectual. Might have worked okay somewhat with a player like Lingard as the No 10 running with the ball through the centre but Paqueta cannot do that. That is more about approach play than scoring, but our wingers tend to be more interested in carving out opportunities for themselves than playing in the CF.

And partnering Scamacca with Ings in wouldn't work at all, unless maybe we went really old school 442 with old fashioned wingers bunging crosses in all the time, and we'd just get completely overrun in midfield if we did that.

Crassus 7:19 Mon May 1
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Nagel

Perfect summary mate
At first sighting it was clear he was absolutely not a traditional point man, Sir Les style
Scamacca appeared to me an intelligent Kane lite sort, dropping off, linking and responding to tight support and inter play
He had a connection with Paq, on through balls but fuck all around him playing to his strengths
A good player this lad, but one who has lost the will from his body language
I suggest that another manager, here or elsewhere will illustrate his abilities in equal measure to Moyes failings

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